No. 29 — Making Radical Moves with Travis Day
My buddy Trav has been galloping all over the globe, falling in love, finding his spirit, inquiring within, and redefining his relationship with himself. As we catch up, Trav shares his insights with me as a 1/3 Splenic Projector.
I deeply connected with Travis’s adventure to his homeland in Norway, walking the footsteps 10 generations of his ancestors have walked. As someone with lines to France and Austria, I was disconnected from my heritage when my families came to Canada. And while I’ve been to France, I have not set foot in Austria — my dad’s side.
I took notes as Trav described the way his body felt in Norway; Travis has a sense of Feeling in his Environment Variable. It’s very evolved, and at times indescribable. To hear a self-aware guy describe his feelings while in a certain space was very affirming to me. I like to hear men talking like Travis. Doing the work. Not perfect, but trying anyway. Giver!
Travis Day is certified by the International Human Design School, based in California, and is known for being a cool surf instructor and certified HD educator.
In this InSight, we discuss:
Travis’s journey across 14 countries in the past few years
What it was like to fall in love while on foreign lands (Shores)
How it feels to be a Projector man ready for love
What it felt like for Travis’s Feeling Tone to "vibrate at a different frequency" in Norway, especially in the Arctic regions
What surrendering control ACTUALLY looks like IRL
Trav’s exploration into Aguahara: aquatic bodywork
Learning to recognize when communities or relationships are not aligned with authentic expression
How to logistically make a radical move to a new location
Trav’s Kitchen + Power View highlights and lowlights from the Human Design Conference in Ibiza
Here's Travis’s Human Design Colour Palette:
TRAVIS DAY
Design Type: 1/3 SPLENIC PROJECTOR
Colour Palette: Appetite / Kitchens / Power / Fear
Find Trav's work at:
Trav’s Podcast
Neutrinoseas.com
@travis.day
Vaness Henry: 0:00
I'm trying so hard to get this story out here. This person, this person, this person who captured your heart in ibiza and, for a 90-day love story —
Travis Day: 0:10
It's weird being a splenic projector and being conditioned as a emotional manifestor for three years yeah and you know how do I trust my, how do I trust my intuition.
Travis Day: 0:22
But then the second I looked at this woman, I just had this knowing like oh, I could end up with her like there's just like it's, it was like an, it wasn't even a thought, it was like, oh, I'm, I'm permeated, you, yeah, I'm, I'm in, and it just happened so fast. Like she, yeah, we just really hit it off on like day two, um, and then I think later that afternoon we were like holding hands like uh, all over each other, yo u know, oh wow
Vaness Henry: 0:53
It's Vaness Henry, you're listening to insights, my private podcast exclusively for community members like you. Here's my latest insight.
Vaness Henry: 1:10
My friend Travis Day is back on Insights. His previous insight was number eight matters of the heart, and I've been trying to wrangle him as he moves around the globe, globetrotting, dating, living his best life. Travis is a 1-3 splenic projector. He is a kitchens person. He's got that amazing power view that I love. He's also an alternating appetite and he is fear motivation. Welcome back to the show, Trav.
Travis Day: 1:38
Thank you so much for having me.
Vaness Henry: 1:40
I'm so glad we finally connected.
Travis Day: 1:42
Yes.
Vaness Henry: 1:43
And then we gossiped for 30 minutes or so no, not that long Just about everything going on before we could even hit record here. So you've been on an environment journey, buddy.
Travis Day: 1:53
Yeah, I guess you could say that.
Vaness Henry: 1:56
When we were chatting before, you said 14 countries in about two years, maybe three Kitchens with the shores experience interlaced in there. So how can we, can we just have a little moment about this, about this travel journey? Yeah I was watching you online these past few seasons. Where did you all go? Over 2024 and even if I don't think you were anywhere in 2025, but over this past year, yeah, no, I've been here.
Travis Day: 2:22
I. I've been back in California since 20 to 25. I, uh, so it started off when I really wanted to go visit the land of my ancestors. Yes, Love, and that's I. I am um like 60% Norwegian.
Vaness Henry: 2:35
You look at.
Travis Day: 2:35
I do.
Vaness Henry: 2:36
You look at? Yeah, I do.
Travis Day: 2:37
Yeah, I, people speak Norwegian to me when I'm there and I'm just like I wish I could, uh, understand you. Um, so that was just like the first hit. I got that I'd need to go visit and I just absolutely had the time of my life and fell in love with, with the country, like things just lined up for me. There was a human design meetup in Oslo.
Vaness Henry: 2:59
Stop. Yeah so that was like another reason to go. That's the most kitchen shit ever it was so kitchens?
Travis Day: 3:05
Yeah, it really was. So I met, I went to this human design meetup in Oslo and had a great time and met some friends and met some people I had done readings for. And this girl named Irene, she was traveling to India and she said, hey, I'm going to be gone for like a month. Why don't you just take my car and you can just like drive wherever you want? And I was like are you sure? I don't know you like this is way too generous. Like I asked a million times, like are you sure? And she was is the most generous person I've ever met. So I took her car and literally drove the entire country and wound up in the north. I taught a human design workshop in Stavanger with another friend of mine, tuna, and, um, just yeah, just had the time of my life did you have all these connections set up before you decided to go?
Vaness Henry: 3:52
like, did you know you're going to go to an hd meetup? Were you already invited to teach at something?
Travis Day: 3:56
you had these things pre-lined up, okay, yes not before I decided I was going to go, but after I decided I was going to go. Then these things, things kind of unfolded in the HD meetup and then the workshop, that with my friend, and instead of anger.
Vaness Henry: 4:09
Is this a healing experience for you? Land of the ancestors? I feel like I heard you say I've. My people are tracked back here from like the 1500s or something, which is like amazing to even have that. And when I saw you there, how much you looked like you belonged there, like you looked so comfortable or something and it was. And I was trying to think, like what am I looking at? Um, my friend, amy lee I sometimes notice this.
Vaness Henry: 4:34
She's australian and she travels to europe and I noticed this shift in her look and I'm and I noticed it on you when you were doing your travels and I'm like what is it I'm seeing? And because it's not makeup, it's not hair, but it is, in a way, it is fashion, it is surrounding, but it's something that spills over the person. So what went on there?
Travis Day: 4:55
my, my body vibrates in a different frequency when I'm there. It's like a, it's like a resonance and I literally I'm feeling a magnetic pull to to be there. And I went um you can trace like 10 generations plus back of my ancestors to this one little town in norway and I went there and had like this visceral wild experience of um of like walking. Where wild experience of um of like walking, where 10 generations of my ancestors walked, like looking at the, at the fjord that they looked at every day and the farms. And it was such a wild experience. And the funny thing for me is I've always been like a warm weather guy, like beach guy, totally, totally right like I run I run cold, like I don't like being cold.
Travis Day: 5:45
Here I'm in at the end of this trip. I'm up in the arctic circle and loving it. Not cold like surfing up there, like my it is. It's the weirdest thing for me because my body like craves being up in the arctic and I'm, like what is happening? Like I am colder in southern californ, california, right now than I am in Norway.
Vaness Henry: 6:06
It's bizarre. Yeah, it's really bizarre. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it here.
Travis Day: 6:10
What.
Vaness Henry: 6:11
Okay, I'm obsessed with this language you use. I vibrated in a different frequency and had this magnetic pull. And I'm looking at kitchens with an undertone, a sense of feeling in the environment. What a a description. So the theory there is I go into an aligned space and these sensations will come over me that are pretty indescribable. You know, it's like I'm I feel a magnetic pull, I'm vibrating in a different way. How do you actually explain what that is? But you're saying I physically. So the way I would interpret that that body wants to be there, that body likes that environment. There is now, okay, well, I don't live here Like I live in. I have a whole life over here, I'm on this adventure. But now I'm confronted with whoa, not only am I from here, I belong here. What goes on in your head when you realize that or feel that?
Travis Day: 7:02
Yeah, I mean just talking about it, I almost cry right now. I just my whole body gets those chills and I just have tears come thinking about it. It's, it's unexplainable, Like what? What is that, you know? And so I, I'm going to live there. I know I'm going to live there. I'm going back in June.
Vaness Henry: 7:17
Love that, but there's issues. Okay, tell me what. Yeah, I have no idea how you would relocate to another country and physically live there. What is the process in that?
Travis Day: 7:29
It's hard as an American going to Europe because we get a 90 day visa and certain countries are pretty lax. But Norway is really, really difficult to get in because of the social system they have set up and you know you get great benefits and everything works and it's just a. You're right, it's a well-run country, um, so I'm still needing to look in and find a way where I can stay longer than 90 days. I have a job possibly lined up as a surf instructor up in the north perfect, uh. So that could be a way of like, how do I get a work visa because I have a job contract lined up? There's a university there. Also, I was like maybe I should take a couple of classes and maybe that can extend my visa. So there's a couple ideas that I have, but that's still something that I haven't figured out how to stay longer than three months.
Vaness Henry: 8:17
Excusez-moi a couple of classes. What would you take? What are you interested in?
Travis Day: 8:21
Norwegian number one.
Vaness Henry: 8:22
I was like oh, my God, I love that. This is okay. Wait, fear and appetite, like these two, these pair of first colors on the internal variables, just like getting into it. Let us understand who is, who are we? What's the root, what is the unknown. I love this for you, I love this.
Travis Day: 8:38
That's interesting and that maybe that's why I feel so, like I really feel not bad, but I just feel like, wow, I really wish I knew the language. Like everywhere I go, there's just this like deep, uh, because I think that is such part that that's like where the culture stems from right, Like that's where it all starts is with, with the language.
Vaness Henry: 8:57
That's going to be so fucking healing for you. Like, you will speak the language. You might not right now, but you will, and you it's gonna be so rewarding. You will, of course you will, if you want that. To find heart. Three activations are you kidding me?
Travis Day: 9:07
it's yours if you want it yeah and how fun yeah, yeah, it would be so much fun that's all I follow these days.
Vaness Henry: 9:14
Like, does this sound fun to me? Then I go after it like a fucking big cat. You know what I mean. If it doesn't sound fun, no interest, like yeah, like Life is way too freaking short you know, I see that, I see that in you so much Every time I see you.
Travis Day: 9:29
I just like smile and just like brightened up, like oh wow, she's really going after the thing she loves.
Vaness Henry: 9:34
You know what, lately I'm feeling good because my community has been very encouraging and it makes me realize I've been in communities that were perhaps discouraging in my past and so there's been healing there and I've tuned out things that were like kind of making me sick and distorted. That was really big, but something that started happening, I think in the study of human design. You just put in your time and it's like you can't deny, like there could be people you don't really like or you have a clash of perspectives or whatever. But I know that. I know the things that I've gone through and if I look at someone who's been studying the system as long as I have, I expect they've been through things too and they're not who they were at the beginning and I kind of meet everyone there like you've been through a transformation, obviously, and I'm kind of willing to get to know everyone again and again and again. Who are you now? You've globetrotted, you're different.
Travis Day: 10:30
You know what?
Vaness Henry: 10:31
I mean Like so I think there's I've reached a new kind of internal peace and I think that's being felt from me. Sometimes I had someone a friend of mine say you have like I'm going to come up and talk to you. I smile and I get like golden retriever energy.
Travis Day: 10:46
And I was like that's fun.
Vaness Henry: 10:49
Okay, I'll take that. Who doesn't like a golden retriever that's what you call like the best boyfriends? You know they're the golden retriever boyfriend and they come and they give you that amazing energy.
Travis Day: 10:58
Is that what they call us yeah?
Vaness Henry: 11:00
that's what they call it. And you got the blonde thing too, you know? Yeah, you can give golden retriever energy. I can be golden.
Vaness Henry: 11:06
So I feel like I'm in a good place and I have reached an important milestone in my journey where I've reached this 20 year remission mark with my cancer story Wow, congratulations. And I didn't realize how impactful that was going to be for me, because what happened was I realized I was running like terrified for 20 years, because in the cancer community you want to get to 20 years and then it's like your cancer. You're done with that cancer. You are not more likely to get it than anybody else. You could get other illnesses, of course, but you're kind of in the clear of that one. And so it was this like life of running from it and like don't look back, don't let it get you, and that's exhausting. And I felt devastated that I realized that's how I was living, like in such a clench when I'm here to be kind of deeply relaxed. And so this relaxing lifestyle has started to unfold more and more and as that's been happening, I've gone on the journey of learning a little bit more about where I come from, which is why I love when you're like I went to the land of my ancestors.
Vaness Henry: 12:10
My people come from France and Austria, but I can't go back to the 1500s. I can go back to about the late 1700s and that's only when they came to Canada. It's challenging to track them because they really were kind of cut off from their culture and trying to assimilate into this new world and I don't really know beyond that generation. So to hear you going and putting your body there, I'm called to that. I want to have that experience too. You know, and in learning about my ancestry there was like weird things I uncovered on my dad's side to secret societies, this long line of Freemasons and the men, and I was like I had to kind of reevaluate how I understood myself and my past and weirdly it just made me feel like I had more capacity to feel good I don't know, you know, like as these big heavy things come up, they sunk and created a depth inside and once they're up and out, there's just more space to hold amazing experiences too.
Travis Day: 13:10
Yeah, it's like the truth will set you free always, and I you know you think about history in general and how much of it is bullshit and how much of it was written by someone else. And then when you find some truth, it's like will change your, your present, because now you can integrate these parts that you knew were there, but you just weren't consciously aware of what they were.
Vaness Henry: 13:30
But you knew there was these, these secrets, you know learning about my dad's side and the way they were, with some symbolism, and I started to see myself in that. But because I was in a female form, we're very much like, intentionally kept out of that because it was just kind of like a boys club, like for men only. But when I kind of went through that journey and saw that I was like bred in a line of men who do that, what I kind of realized for myself, which freaked me out a bit, I want to admit, when I look at people and I have the language of human design now conditioned into me, it's as if I can see illness and that kind of freaked me out, you know, because you don't want to be looking out at the world looking for illness. You know it seems kind of negative or pessimistic or not something I'm particularly interested in. But then I couldn't help. But something would come before me and I'd be able to see whatever was it's like. I could see someone's colors and tones on them and whether it was expressing in a magnetic, healthy way or if it was contracting and perhaps they were hurting somewhere. You could just see it.
Vaness Henry: 14:31
And I started to just get braver in talking about that because people wanted to hear about it. It was weird, you know they would come and they would ask, and so I would keep talking. But it takes courage to talk about a weird thing that people are ready to come fight you on, you know. So I'm just like, but I don't know, yeah, something, something has shifted, something has shifted. I don't care so much or something I don't know. But I care a lot, but I don't care as well. It's weird, it's a weird ego journey, you know.
Travis Day: 15:00
Well, just having the community around you like you said, you had a community that and that's been something that's really unfolded for me these last months is like I have people in my life that I thought wanted the best for me, but like, deep down, there is like something they're holding on or they're jealous, or they're really like they're not supportive, and so I've been really waking up to those people in my life and needing to really, yeah, shift community and wanting to build my own of people who I know will support me authentically. Good for you.
Vaness Henry: 15:33
I'm sorry to hear that. That's a hard part of the study, I'm going to say, where you reach that point where you're kind of understanding yourself to such a degree and you're simultaneously understanding the ones around you and you're kind of yeah, you're confronted with wow, I'm contributing to an unhealthy dynamic or I'm being taken advantage of, or I'm taking advantage of sometimes, but whatever, this is the part I'm playing in.
Vaness Henry: 15:57
it doesn't feel good and I have to have these kinds of breakups. For me it was in a lot of friendships and that was really hard.
Vaness Henry: 16:04
Like close core people was like wow, you don't have my best interest at heart yeah and and that's devastating, or you know another way you could say that gutting like it's just like yeah, and so then for me, that took me quite a long time to repair once I separated myself from these people I've been plugged into for so long and then very careful almost about making new connections. And then all of a sudden, when that started going good and I started trusting myself, I felt like everyone was my friend, like then it was like whatever I just I'm going to be good to everyone as much as I can and meet people with respect as much as I can and trust. That'll be like reflected back to me. And then these high quality relationships started that I've never had before, you know, and it's like Whoa, as you're making your chosen family around you. It's like I didn't, man, I put up with some bullshit before, but that's kind of a that's. That's one of the most tragic parts about this I think about.
Travis Day: 17:01
I know any awareness study is those realizations of like what you've been putting up with. It's crushing sometimes.
Vaness Henry: 17:10
The delusion or the yeah, the putting up with.
Travis Day: 17:11
Yeah, it's crushing sometimes the delusion or the yeah the dependency and, yeah, it's a lot.
Vaness Henry: 17:12
Yeah, yeah, it can be hard. So I'm, I'm, I'm dying to segue here, I'm dying to ask yeah, segue, while I was watching you live your best life traipsing around, there seemed to be a love story. There was this madame making music. You were showing her up to us and I could just feel it in your gaze and the way you were. So I was like okay, bros in love, what's going on? So you, you met some people along the way. Can we talk about it?
Travis Day: 17:33
Of course yeah. Where should I even begin?
Vaness Henry: 17:36
Well, the last time we chat yeah you were still processing, healing and recovering this manifestor you had been with for a few years and had really impacted you, so much so that you know a lot of your content was angled toward manifestors because you were processing what you went through. And now there's definitely been a shift. You're talking more about your experience now. It's like, okay, he's processed her, Like he's got she might still feel what he feels from her, but now he is somewhere else on that storyline. Yeah, and you met someone else.
Travis Day: 18:10
Yes, uh, it's so funny. I'm remembering what I said on your last, on the last episode of like I'm ready for a relationship now. Ha, ha, ha ha.
Vaness Henry: 18:20
What? Okay, look at your. You're saying you're ready for it. So you're looking and now you're testing, now you're trialing, trial and error.
Travis Day: 18:26
Yeah, but I think the funny thing for me was like maybe I was ready for like something new, but I, my mind, doesn't know what the hell I'm, I'm ready for or not. It's just going to unfold the way it naturally does. And this, this journey I've been on, was really like a heart opening, heartbreaking, like a body. I took a freaking. I took a dance class. I like I don't dance the way.
Vaness Henry: 18:51
I loved that. Oh my God, I saw you take a dance. I was like who is this guy? He's doing everything, or but you were doing like kind of I don't know if there were surf classes, what were you doing in the water?
Travis Day: 19:01
Yeah, so I've been training in this water therapy called Agua Hara, where it's like. It's like energy work and also body work in the water. It's the most incredible thing I've ever done. And so that's like, when I look at myself now, I see human design as like my mental practice and my ability to guide people through, um, you know, psychologically. Uh, but this water practice that I'm learning is going to be like the embodiment part, part of it, and I'm such a I water practice that I'm learning is going to be like the embodiment part, part of it, and I'm such a, I'm such a water guy. So that's kind of the two things.
Travis Day: 19:27
But the first, the first thing that I said yes to, that was absolutely terrifying, was this dance class that was half of it was on land and half of it was in the water and it was geared around contact, improv. I'm living these like professional dancers, let it, and it was. It was so scary and the first thing we had to do was they said, okay, partner up. And we're like, okay, this is scary already. We're gonna partner up with somebody. Okay, and then they're like one person's gonna dance and the other person's just gonna watch you.
Vaness Henry: 19:56
I hate it, her and me is dying. Oh well, fine, I'll be the watcher. I'll be the watcher. I was like Okay, wait, which were you? Were you the dancer or the watcher?
Travis Day: 20:05
I think I danced first because I'm like you know me, I'm like let's just get it over with. I'll go first and do it, but it was the most like terrifying thing I've done with someone you know and like, why is my body so locked up? Human design really has set me free mentally and allowed me to love myself, but my body was still closed, and so this journey for me has been an opening of my physical body and and a new vulnerability and a new ability for me to move authentically. I think that's the piece that I was missing. So that came with two love stories really.
Travis Day: 20:40
The first one was this woman in Hungary who this was a purely karmic like we had known each other for like millions of years and it was, and she was married for like 14 years and like never looked at another man, like very in love with her husband, like just a just a beautiful relationship, and it felt like we had in another realm, like penciled into this life, like hey, we're not, we may not be with each other in this life, but like let's pencil in like a week or two where we actually meet each other and just have some fun, you know. And so it was like instantly speaking the same language, no walls up at all. It was this heart to heart vulnerable connection, where there was literally nothing standing between our souls and it was just this magical two weeks together, and it was so deep and so unexplained.
Vaness Henry: 21:39
How did you meet this person?
Travis Day: 21:41
She was at the. So this is the crazy thing, she's Hungarian and I knew some people in this community, so I was invited to go and I and I went and she was. She found out about this retreat through somebody that she knew in Hungary who actually owned the place that we were going to do the retreat at. So she was the only one who didn't know anybody there and just felt a pull that she needed to go to this, this thing. And then, of course, we get put in the same room together. Uh, and I had one.
Vaness Henry: 22:08
You partnered together what do you mean? Were you like?
Travis Day: 22:11
one of you was watching, one of you was dancing oh, we, throughout the two weeks, we did a lot of things together okay, yes, it was like a two-week experience. I see, I see yeah, no, we were staying in the same room. Um what at the at the place? Yeah, and we had both wanted our own room, but there wasn't another single available, but then they're like you're actually going to be, like is this comfortable for you?
Travis Day: 22:31
and then like, okay, and then, yeah, it just was like what the fuck happened? And then the crazy thing there is, when I, when we had to leave each other I've done two mushroom journeys in my life and um mushrooms.
Vaness Henry: 22:44
Always give you what you need, what?
Travis Day: 22:46
happened it I? There was nothing involved here, but when I did the mushroom journey, like years ago, there was like tears that came out of me that I wasn't crying, it was just like. It was like things that were living in my body, in my cells, like the pain of my ancestors and my family were like just coming out. You know, like it wasn't me like boohoo crying, it was just they were coming out of me and when we had to leave each other, it was like it felt like that, like something was just leaving my body and these uncontrollable tears. And it was just this, this wild physical experience of of having to are you able to still have contact with this?
Travis Day: 23:24
person. Yeah yeah, we're still on, we're still on contact. Yeah, yeah.
Vaness Henry: 23:28
This kitchen's feeling tone here. What the fuck Trav oh my. God and all the splenic story in there, like happened to be there. Happened to be there. Happened to connect here. Happened to connect here. Wow.
Travis Day: 23:40
I could write a book about this last year.
Vaness Henry: 23:43
Maybe you should.
Travis Day: 23:44
Yeah.
Vaness Henry: 23:46
Maybe you should. Would that be fun?
Travis Day: 23:48
yeah, it would definitely be fun to help you.
Vaness Henry: 23:51
You could just go talk to your little ai. It'll take notes for you and then, after you can, or whatever we were talking about ai.
Vaness Henry: 23:56
Before the show yeah, yeah, we were talking about ai before the show and travis was like I don't know how I feel about this. I'm starting to feel like a grandpa when I use zoom and I, because he came on zoom and I was like I just going to turn on my AI companion to take some notes for me and he was like what the fuck? And I was like that's valid, let me explain.
Travis Day: 24:13
Yeah, I, know your level of technology.
Vaness Henry: 24:16
Yeah, Writing a little book about your experience could be healing, just saying yeah, it definitely could be.
Vaness Henry: 24:22
Especially Trev, and I don't want to project I do put this on you a lot as this representation of the white man, single guy, like going on the journey, doing the awareness building, letting yourself come undone, fall in love. Men need to hear that, you know. Men need to be able to embrace their softness, their wounds, what's hurt them, and they need to be able to transmute it and come out the champion, you know, and having examples and stories of that is healing for this generation.
Travis Day: 24:52
Yeah, that's so true.
Vaness Henry: 24:52
Because it's a different breed of man out right now, like than there was before.
Travis Day: 24:56
Yeah, that's so funny. I never think about that, but that's so true.
Vaness Henry: 25:00
The character you play.
Travis Day: 25:02
Yeah, the character. Yeah, yeah, Because I think, as a one three, I'm so in my own experience.
Vaness Henry: 25:07
As you should be.
Travis Day: 25:13
And I often don't even realize the impact I have on people by telling my story, and so it is always good to hear other perspectives of what's possible, with me sharing, because I think one threes are oftentimes blind to that.
Vaness Henry: 25:23
They're in their story and we can learn a lot from that you know, especially those of us who are really transpersonal, who are like. That's how we learn, you know? Is it watching what you do and everything? Now you have this karmic love story with the Hungarian. We don't know anything about the design.
Travis Day: 25:38
She's a projector.
Vaness Henry: 25:40
Oh, two projectors.
Travis Day: 25:41
We love that coming together having a little penetrating moment Fun Okay penetrating moment, fun, okay, and I think that was my first love story with the projector, where I realized the depth that you could go together was just like unright. It was just something I've never experienced before.
Vaness Henry: 25:53
So, yeah, like I obviously can't share this experience, but in the stories that I've heard, the projector on projector, dynamic, with these two penetrating auras and the capacity to really see each other, yeah, in a way that is not available to everyone, yeah, extremely powerful, and to just hear the karmic connection and the emotional waves coming off you and out of you and cleansing you, you know it does sound pretty profound.
Travis Day: 26:16
Yeah, it was like there was no. I find my aura with other types can be a bit intimidating and a bit intense, Okay, and I think with her there was just no. It was like we're the same, so there was just no. It was like we're the same, so there was no there was no worry about the intensity of the connection it was so it was like insanely intense, but it was just normal for both of us, like we kind of like relief.
Vaness Henry: 26:38
Yeah, freedom, I could just be myself fuck yeah, yeah yeah, but you said we started there, so I'm being led to believe that there was maybe a journey we went on once we left the hungarian projector. What happened after this? Where'd we go?
Travis Day: 26:52
took a while to let that go. And then I did three, three other water tradings of our agbahara, two in spain, cool travis all three of them in spain.
Travis Day: 27:01
Yeah, so I went to tarragona in spain and then I stayed in Barcelona for a little while. I toured the coast, uh, costa Brava, which was absolutely amazing, and then met in kind of like the middle of of of that area and did another, another water training. So I did three in in total, one in Hungary and then two in Spain, and then after that I went to visit my sister in France Fun In Saint-Tropez.
Vaness Henry: 27:28
We love France.
Travis Day: 27:29
At this beautiful villa with this. Yeah, that was amazing. I drove from there to Paris and took a flight from Paris to Belgium and then stayed with a friend I had made in Belgium for a few weeks and then met a friend of mine. My best friend at the time was from Belgium and she was visiting, so I went to go see her Fun Community, her community community, community, community.
Travis Day: 27:56
I feel like my community is so um worldwide and so many of them I feel the same in europe and not many of the states at all.
Travis Day: 27:59
Bye, bye america, yeah I'm out, yeah, and then from where did I go from there? From there did I go. And then from belgium to norway. So I went back to norway, uh, drove my friend's car all the way back up to the north because she had bought a house up in the north where I want to live in this place called Lofoten, and stayed in Norway for a long, long time until my visa finally expired.
Vaness Henry: 28:19
Went to Costa Rica for no reason other than I needed to transform, yeah, my Uranus runs through Costa Rica.
Travis Day: 28:28
So it was really like unsettling and, uh, transformative and and deep. And then from there is when I won the raffle, the human design raffle to go to the event in Ibiza.
Vaness Henry: 28:38
Yeah, how, was that so Ibiza classic site like where everything kind of was. I saw that you stood at the same tree that Ra had stood at and had his downloads or whatever. What was it like being there?
Travis Day: 28:51
That island is, I don't want to say fucked, but it is you did.
Travis Day: 28:58
But it's like the most magical experience I've ever had in my life, and this love story with this woman and it was like it's an alternate universe is what that island is, and you're living in a different timeline, Like things just work differently there, and the level of synchronicity and magic that happens, but also the amount of like, darkness and chaos that lives there as well.
Travis Day: 29:24
It has it all, and I think a lot of people that are living there have this feeling like they don't know what they're doing with their lives and so they're just like in this. It's like a, like purgatory, but it's like it's like no man's land, it's like it's not really real, but it's like a place to go and wait and and like live this really interesting life. So so many people that I met there who had lived there for a long time, they all have the same answer they're like, yeah, I'm trying to get this going. Or like, yeah, you know, I've been working on this thing over here. Or like they're they're in a space of like, trying to do something, but nothing can materialize there because it's not a, it's not, it's not grounded.
Vaness Henry: 30:11
Okay.
Travis Day: 30:12
It's like a and this is my experience but it was just like a really transitory wild, like alternate universe that's the only way I can describe it.
Vaness Henry: 30:23
Yeah, so is that where you met someone?
Travis Day: 30:26
yeah, it is okay.
Vaness Henry: 30:28
Can we? Can we have a little, a little taste of what happened there?
Travis Day: 30:31
because you're in this transient other world, other reality place and you bump into someone yeah, so it was day two of the human design conference and there's all already drama happening at this, this conference. Oh my god, the amount of drama of course you know as it is.
Vaness Henry: 30:52
What do you think? What's your sense on that?
Travis Day: 30:54
the drama? Yeah, it's getting people who are so intensely individualistic try to work together. Yeah it it doesn't work. Nah, nobody wants to sacrifice themselves, nobody wants to concede on their identity, and it's almost like overboard, like to. In order to live, you have to sacrifice, sometimes Like you have to have a bit of give and take, especially in a group, if you're going to make it work. So these are just like the most proud individual type of people and you get put them together and it's like what do you think is going to happen, you know.
Vaness Henry: 31:31
So just a lot of you also entertainment entertainment if you're not too attached. If you're not too attached, oh yeah, can you imagine making a reality show or something? I live, I'd be all over that.
Travis Day: 31:40
But let me film you. That'd be number one on netflix, for sure.
Vaness Henry: 31:43
Yeah, the drama, okay. So there's a. So there's a culture, there are personalities, everybody's on the journey, right, like everybody's going there. So we got to have a lot of space for each other, working through our shit, and we all come together, right.
Travis Day: 31:56
And that's that's kind of the position I hold, in that you expect people's egos to come out, you expect can you hold them anyway, because we all know better and we're all learning and you know we can be kind of gracious in that I was, I was gonna say this to me going through this, this deconditioning of my solar plexus and this conditioning in the last three years, like this was, I think, like the final test for me of like, can you stay composed in these big emotional experiences, or are you gonna lose it? Or are you gonna, like you know, revert back to avoidance? Or you know, what are you, what are you do with this drama? Because the solar plexus is where we find all the drama, and so for me, it was like a, it was like a proving ground of like all this chaos around me and I was really able to stay cool, calm and collected and hold space for all of it and still be myself and not be, uh, too flustered. So it was great that's very inspiring.
Vaness Henry: 32:48
Yeah, that's very inspiring. What were the highlights from that event? Were there any? Were there just low lights in there?
Travis Day: 32:55
you know well actually our podcast you kind of.
Vaness Henry: 32:58
You kind of I saw you share something where you were like you know, I actually thought I saw myself in this kind of core community area and after now going and experience, I see that I'm actually not what happened there.
Travis Day: 33:10
I'm in transference of what is it, Novice and um novices and masters, where I looked up to these need motivation, right, right, right.
Travis Day: 33:21
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, and um, you know I'm I'm supposed to be separatist to communalist. You know I'm I'm supposed to be separatist to communalist. You know that's my trajectory and I, like Richard Beaumont, was the first man I ever read about human design and I just changed my life and I got to be someone who would pick him up at the airport and drive him all around and he was staying at my villa, whoa cool moment.
Travis Day: 33:47
And to connect with him. And then, um, to meet marianne winneger and to meet oh my god yes, I have a book uh, you know all these like original human design people who I really looked up to and I felt like, oh my god, am I ever going to get to this state? And then, after witnessing the drama and the chaos of of not, and I'm not going to name any any names, because some of them were brilliant and and amazing and was really sweet but I just realized, like, dude, you don't need to do any more human design retreats, like you're good, you are living it, like you're actually living it in a, in a way that's authentic and vulnerable and that's what people love about you.
Travis Day: 34:26
Like you don't need to idolize these people anymore, because the reality is they're not what you think they are, you know, and it's not like they know human design any better, Like people are living it at the level they're living it. So for me it really was a breaking down of my. I'm not good enough, I need more information, or I need, I need to look up to these people when it's like, dude, you're in the ring, like you're playing the game, just you know the way you're meant to.
Vaness Henry: 34:52
So do you think people look up to you now?
Travis Day: 34:54
No, I think people are very triggered by me, especially in that space. I think people are were very judgmental of me. I think, um, I get uh attacked.
Vaness Henry: 35:04
Whoa. This is new information to me.
Travis Day: 35:07
You felt judged, whoa this is new information to me. You felt judged. The funny thing for me was nobody none of the professionals, no one there would tell me anything about my chart when I pulled it up. And they would go off on other people's charts and say all these things and they had stuff to say, but for some reason, when these people looked at my chart, there was this like weird, like look, that would overcome them. And then I would either get like oh, I just don't have anything to say about this chart, or I'd get like they would try to say something for you it was.
Travis Day: 35:40
I didn't understand it. I was so like frustrated, like why is no one wanted to say anything about my, my chart? But it it was. And I have my own theories, but I haven't really fleshed them all out yet. But then the woman.
Vaness Henry: 35:52
I am ready. My friend, this is a space for you to flesh a note. What are you thinking about it?
Travis Day: 35:58
The woman that I was in love with at the time, who we were spending a lot of time together. She said don't you see that it's because you don't need it. You don't need anybody to tell you anything about your chart, you're living it, you. You understand it now. And that like really shook me and was like Whoa, that's a deep insight. I really think there's, there's something?
Vaness Henry: 36:19
What are you seeking, right? What are you seeking?
Travis Day: 36:22
And then my other theory is like the more I look at my chart, the more it's like you cannot hide from me. I'm so penetrating with that 25, 51. And I have this theory of Neptune and gate. 25 right now is really here to clean out all the bullshit spiritual people, because 25 is where we find the gatekeeper and the priest and the people who want to say your authority, away from me, I'll be the voice for god. You know, you don't need to go there, like, don't waste your time.
Travis Day: 36:52
So I really think like now is the time where these people are going to be exposed, uh, and so I think maybe a lot of them who are, who know that they're full of shit and and they're still wearing these masks of guru or whatever they know when they look at my chart, like I'm not going to be able to hide from this dude and he's going to be pulling uh or like prodding or like exposing might see me like. It's like they know I see them and they get really, really uncomfortable by my gaze.
Vaness Henry: 37:22
I think that's what it is you know, just so that it's been said, as somebody who observes you and has a relationship with you, I do not find you to be triggering. I think, if anything, you may share things that are activating something in us that's ready to be activated, but I do not perceive you, as you know, cutting and triggering because you're not hiding. You can't write six. I can't hide. You're like you're the yeah, here you go. Everyone's gonna look at you.
Travis Day: 37:47
But I think that's what it is. If you're hiding, you're not going to want to be around me. If you want to stay hidden, if you're, if you're hiding and you don't know it and you're really looking to uncover yourself in those masks and like want to be a better version of yourself, then I'm like the guy to go to. But if you're in a position of like power or in a community like that and you're hiding, then you don't want me there.
Vaness Henry: 38:08
Oh yeah, and power views and lock in and see that right. And you, you have this tone of uncertainty beneath your power view and so that the second tone always kind of like challenges. What it's seeing a bit, you know, is, are you really like in your power, you know?
Vaness Henry: 38:23
what I mean like are you really? There's this kind of innocent challenge. It's one of my favorite tones in their personality and so if somebody is, it's kind of like you would ask the question that leads us somewhere new. Right, it could, because it's two. It's like discovery, it's like why don't we do it that way? And who did put you on top, and why is it? You know? And so somebody could be. You know they're wanting to put you down because they're wanting to keep in their command or something. Yeah, they might hate that challenging undertone. You know why is it interesting to you?
Travis Day: 38:55
Because I don't do it consciously, it's, it's my aura.
Vaness Henry: 38:58
It just happens. It's the, it's the, it's literally, it's tones. Right, I can say you look good, you look good. The tone has changed. But I've said the same thing, you know. And so there's this tone that we kind of express with that. Yeah, you're not consciously like I'm challenging you, like, but even though it's happening in the personality, it's just an admission. Yeah, through the aura, I guess it just comes, comes off you. Does that resonate with you?
Travis Day: 39:29
Yeah, it's like, uh, it's. It's the more I call myself out on my own bullshit of like I, I think, like idolizing these people. Maybe it was never real, you know, and maybe I come out of a fake, like, oh, I really look up to these people and really, maybe I, I, I don't know what like what, like what we lead with versus what our aura is saying can be different.
Vaness Henry: 39:49
They can be a disconnect.
Travis Day: 39:51
And people feel that.
Vaness Henry: 39:52
Yes, especially people becoming after the pandemic and just shut out like that from each other. When we started to reemerge, we emerged different people and our senses had shifted. We were more used to our own energy. And then, as we go back out in the world and meet people, you can feel, perhaps, an inauthenticity. You can feel when something doesn't quite line up or match, even if you can't quite identify it.
Vaness Henry: 40:22
You're now, you trust that it's like I don't know, it's not for me and because I think we are all just kind of reacting and responding to that in each other, you know it's like Ooh, what is it about this person? Ooh, no, not that and we're kind of yeah, especially I'm shuddering as I'm trying to explain it, cause I'm looking at your, your fifth tone in your kitchen and there's such a effervescence that comes from that. There's such a, there's such a, there's such a. These people really feel what's going on in the environment. So if you're telling me this is what was happening in this community, this is what was happening in this community, I'm like locked in, like, okay, he has a, he's on the pulse there and I would trust that. So but okay, I'm trying so hard to get this story out here, this person, this person, this person who captured your heart in ibiza and for nine, a 90 day love story.
Travis Day: 41:07
Yeah, so it's. It's weird, being a splenic projector and being conditioned as a emotional manifestor for three years, and you know how do I trust my, how do I trust my intuition. But then the second I looked at this woman, I just had this knowing like, oh, I could end up with her Like there's just like it's. It was like an, it wasn't even a thought. It was like, oh, I'm, I'm permeated, you, yeah, I'm, I'm in, and it just happened so fast. Like she, yeah, we just really hit it off on like day two and then, I think later that afternoon we were like holding hands, like all over each other you know, oh, wow, and but we're older now, travis, like you know, you're dating your 20s.
Vaness Henry: 41:51
It's like this two-year courtship. When you're in your 30s, the it's just the pace quickens up because you know yourself more you can. You know it does move quicker. If I think that's very natural, and I and the older we get even quicker because you've had so much life experience now and you come into connection with that, you're like yep, I'm all in, I don't need to fuck around you know, yeah, because you're not having to, yeah, you're not having to, uh, chip the hard stone away anymore off your heart, like you said as a man I'm, I've been conditioned to being the emotional manifestor.
Vaness Henry: 42:23
The way I interpreted that is that you were supposed to come in and initiate and be this guy when you're trying to date or do anything in life and you've had to go on the journey of learning. Actually, I sit back and I wait. Yeah, you'll tell me.
Travis Day: 42:35
You'll tell me, yeah, well, that, no, that's a great point. But what I was referring to was the Neptune transit that I've been in. That's been conditioned to me to be the emotional manifestor. But also that's a really great point is, of course I was just, I was conditioned to be that way, um, exactly, initiate and all that kind of stuff.
Travis Day: 42:51
But this felt not gonna go right, right exactly yeah, but this felt very much just aligned, like we just bumped into each other.
Travis Day: 42:57
And another crazy story she was planning on going, uh, to Mallorca with some friends to go, I think, to some festival, and she met this guy named Billy um, who was just the coolest guy in Ibiza.
Travis Day: 43:09
He's like the human design Ibiza guy, like older guy, uh, helped to orchestrate the villas we were going to stay and do the events in, and so he just he's like the kind of the guy over there. And so she met him at a party two days before and he invited her to come as like a guest, like one of his guests. And so she told her friends, like you guys, I can't go to mallorca, I don't know what it is, but I just have to go to this human design thing. And she, she was like just getting into it. So she wasn't like a huge human design nerd or anything, um, but she just felt like there's some reason why I have to go to this thing. And then we met each other and we're and like immediately my mind's like, of course, you know, I win a raffle, yeah, to come here and you decide not to go with your friends, and here and and here we are?
Vaness Henry: 43:51
are you both splenic?
Travis Day: 43:52
no, she's an emotional uh uh. Emotional, emotional projector oh, oh right, emotional mg yeah right, right, right, yeah right right, she had the 1949 and the 4130 and the 360 and, uh, she had the 34th.
Vaness Henry: 44:05
Yeah, she's, she's got what's your, what's your interpretation about this?
Travis Day: 44:10
I mean coming full circle. I don't know what the fuck patience is. That's what I would tell everybody, like it just is not a thing that I, that I was blessed with or meant to have. So this whole journey, you know it, it didn't. It unfortunately didn't last Like we had the most magical synchronistic time in it in Ibiza, like a. It was like a love story. Like like our first kiss was at this, this amazing restaurant, with these lights in this courtyard and music playing and and like oh, kitchen's feeling, trav, you are such a guy.
Vaness Henry: 44:42
Yeah, look at you. Puppy dog for that.
Travis Day: 44:50
Hey, right vibe, right mood it was. It was just like, uh, it was like I was living in a movie, you know, and then like one, like I was fully in my spleen, leading and just letting it go wherever, and she was just like, is it possible to fall in love with someone's spleen Because it just makes everything better? Yes, it is Fuck. Do we attach to this lean?
Vaness Henry: 45:03
Absolutely my husband's defined there, and I'm just like yo, I feel good when you're around. It's crazy. That's so cool, though, that you I love, I love how that sounded, that when it was aligned you went into this sort of alpha leading mode. Yep, spleen, spleen, Spleen. Deep trust, yeah.
Travis Day: 45:19
Love that. Yeah, I mean, one night we were driving home and I was like I feel like I need to pull over and look at the stars right now and it's like okay so we just love that, we love.
Vaness Henry: 45:28
Are you kidding me? We're like, okay, yeah, we love that okay.
Travis Day: 45:31
So we're looking at the stars, like hugging each other against the car, just like looking up, and then a I'm not kidding you like four second comet hits the sky and like completely the entire sky, this massive, like shooting star I need my books oh my god let me.
Vaness Henry: 45:54
I'm sorry, I am who I am. I'm sorry, I am who I am. What is? What is the comet omen? Let me so every, let me show you every once in a while, here I refer to this book of symbols. We love it. We just want to quickly look up comet because there's going to be significance in there. 34, 35. Let me just see, come on the journey with me. Thank, you.
Travis Day: 46:18
I'm on the journey. I love it now.
Vaness Henry: 46:22
A great light blazes through the night sky in a photograph from the beginning of the 20th century. That's what I'm looking at here. Okay, so, let's just take that a great light blazes through the sky.
Travis Day: 46:32
Yeah.
Vaness Henry: 46:33
Okay. So I'm taking that as a brilliant moment of insight, inspiration, clarity, the fact that you would even see it. You know the chances of that not very common. It takes them a few years to complete that kind of burns. The fact, you know, it's just interesting to kind of think about. Political, social or religious upheaval was often connected with the appearance of comets. That's interesting. They because of their origination in the heavens and their suddenness and brightness comets like meteors and ufos are potent hooks for psychic projections. Sometimes they represent strange contents from the collective unconscious that oppose the values held consciously by the culture. They're considered to be very strange, very revolutionary, and they can be integrated directly. So here you are, hand in hand, romantic moment, private, and then there's this blaze across the sky, a blaze of insight, a blaze of upheaval. Change anything? What happened after that moment?
Travis Day: 47:38
That story is censored.
Vaness Henry: 47:43
Okay, so there was a blaze of insight, then a boink. We love that. We love that part of the story.
Travis Day: 47:48
I mean, I think this is where I really got caught up, because so many things like this had happened in Ibiza with us. It was just like what is? Who's writing this story? Because it was like you couldn't write these things. It was just out of a fairy tale. There was moments in these beautiful fields, at sunset, and beaches and shooting stars and all these things where we're just like what is going on and I was just so deeply in in.
Vaness Henry: 48:13
You're enamored, infatuated? Yeah, absolutely.
Travis Day: 48:16
And everything is more beautiful.
Vaness Henry: 48:19
Yeah, Right, something that I've really learned too. As a six line, my experience can be great, but if I'm sharing it with someone, it just got 10 times better to just go. Are you seeing this fucking comment? It's just like better than if you were by yourself seeing it for some reason. Just to share it with another awake person is like oh, we're together, I'm not alone, you know, and there's something very healing about that. Yeah, so okay, powerful moments in abiza yeah falling in love. How do you leave abiza?
Travis Day: 48:50
yeah, so I now you're like connected, bonded like.
Vaness Henry: 48:53
How do you?
Travis Day: 48:54
I thought we were gonna end up together for sure, like I was a hundred percent certain that this was like my person and we were gonna end up together. And I invited her to come to Thanksgiving in California and she said, yes, she would come, and, and so did she come? So I'm in. So she ended up coming after Thanksgiving. There was a thing that happened where she she lost her passport from her connecting flight between Ibiza and in the US.
Travis Day: 49:26
And you know diving to me, I was like, oh, this is the kind of the first sign like something's up, like something's for sure.
Vaness Henry: 49:34
How could you not think that? Of course it's been bliss and perfect?
Travis Day: 49:40
No, now here's the other shit. Ok, so we worked through that and then I'm like I think I'm really getting a feeling like she doesn't want to come.
Travis Day: 49:44
I'm getting a feeling like she's scared to come or like she's just not very valid right, yeah, of course it's so fast, um, and so we work it all out, and then she ends up coming out afterwards and the moment that she got here, she just wasn't here and I knew like uh-oh, like this is really and and it's funny because, like before we left she, she questioned me one night in Ibiza and and she was like I just feel like this is all an illusion, like it's not grounded in reality, like what? Like what's happening here like doesn't seem real. And that was kind of the first part of me. That was like uh-oh, like I didn't see that coming, like I it feels so real to me, like it feels very uh, I'm a Pisces also and uh and and water boy.
Travis Day: 50:34
Yeah, and so little things started happening where it started to unravel, and then when she came to visit me, it just wasn't, obviously not the same. We're in a completely different place, you know Um and uh it does make me think how much of that matters.
Vaness Henry: 50:47
You know where we physically are with people. What do you think about that?
Travis Day: 50:51
I don't think it does. I think, and what the conclusion that we really drew at the end, because she ended up leaving. I wanted her to stay, but she left to go back to Denmark and and ended, ended things and what I really saw was like I put so much with my fantasy life that we were living. I was unconsciously putting so much pressure on her to be in this thing. And she's so emotional in her design and she needs so much time in order to know and feel safe in in something.
Vaness Henry: 51:24
Right and you're like quick, instant, and I'm so quick. She's the opposite in a way. Yeah, way, yeah so, so opposite.
Travis Day: 51:31
But what happened was that she, just like I, was so strong in my leading and and the things that are happening, and it's like, how can you explain the shooting star?
Vaness Henry: 51:39
you know like obviously that means we're supposed to be together right shooting star bitch how do you explain that? Yeah, obviously you're supposed to be together.
Travis Day: 51:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, hey, I get it so I think she, I think she just went along with my fantasy of what was, of what was happening, and we do have such a deep connection, there is such a body connection between us, like I still think it, you know there's, there may be like a possibility, but I think you felt, what you felt, you know for sure, and that was real, we can't deny that.
Travis Day: 52:05
But I, what I saw, was like it just went way too fast for this girl, obviously, for this woman, and I, unknowingly, was just putting so much pressure on the, on the relationship, where to me it didn't feel like pressure, it just felt like oh, this is fun and we're going to be together and whatever.
Travis Day: 52:25
So we had some really interesting conversations at the end and uncovered a lot, yeah, and it just it just ended one day and then that was. That's been really difficult. Yeah, going through something that deep and that quick and meeting my family and, you know, having yeah and and again back to the 35 36 channel. My expectations that I had were insane and that's like the biggest killer in these um right, that's what they tell us, hey, yeah you know, and so that really, yeah, that really hurt.
Travis Day: 52:58
It was very shocking. It was kind of like what the fuck happened and I was left at home alone, you know, feeling like this was the last thing I really had. That is now gone. And now here I am like stripped of everything over this last year and a half of my travels and I just felt, um, yeah, super empty and stripped and alone, um, so where do you go from there?
Vaness Henry: 53:25
How do you pick yourself up?
Travis Day: 53:27
I think the lessons I've I, the funny thing for for me was like she was very towards the end, like like pretty avoidant of, I think, not wanting to go deep, but what I've kind of like put in my head. It was like she was me and like all of my relationships I had never, ever in my life like scared someone away. I was always on the other side Like.
Vaness Henry: 53:53
I don't want to. You know, you're the one who scared away. You're like, yeah, I was the one who that was me. So now you're on the other side.
Travis Day: 53:59
Yeah To be on the other side. I'm like whoa.
Travis Day: 54:02
This is really fascinating to be on the other side and to be the one who's putting, applying the pressure and being emotional and like um new self-understanding there hey so much understanding, so much understanding of like, of an emotional being number one, but in relationship, how, how much patience is required and how, the more I can let go of expectations, the better it's going to go.
Travis Day: 54:26
And that's so hard because of desire and the things that we want in life. And, yeah, so for me it's a big take a take a breath, integrate these lessons. And we were just in contact the other day, me and her, and I always have so much love for for her as well. And, yeah, just like a it going back to being on your podcast for the first time, my mind telling me I'm ready for a relationship. To me, it goes back to like, dude, you don't know anything, you are not in control of this, you are not going to plan what your relationship is going to look like or what your partnership is going to look like, like you need to let go and surrender and do the things that excite you and that light you up and focus on your work, and it will come, but you don't get to be the one that writes it yeah, I, I love what you said and also I think it's okay to really deeply allow yourself to want that.
Vaness Henry: 55:21
You know, it's like I'm ready for a relationship. I was my mind, but I want that for myself. I think it's important to let that in, you know, instead of and really let that in because I think that's part of what it means to be ready for a relationship is letting yourself deeply want it while you've done the work on yourself. And then what happens is you put yourself in a great place and you're feeling good and you love yourself and the person that you're supposed to be with. They come. But when we're lost and we're broken, we just attract those other fragments, like us, you know. Or if our shards fit together, you know what I mean. But once we're like, I feel good that when we put that out and we attract from that, it's it's that soulmate connection, you know, because it's it's a, it's just an interesting bond.
Vaness Henry: 56:06
So you've been on what a ride, what a ride. And you kind of told me like to go back. I'm gonna go back to europe. Yeah, I just gotta figure it out. I love that for you like, hey, I love that you're kind of like a little bit south for me and we have the same climate vibe. Like you know, we're west coast kind of thing. I love that for you, like when I saw you over there, like you looked away, hard to describe, and if you felt what you felt in your body and you're ready to like I don't know establish your chosen family or something.
Travis Day: 56:38
Yeah, powerful, I have so many. I've had people reach out and be like no offense, but you are way more interesting when you're in europe than when you're in the us, I think.
Vaness Henry: 56:47
I think you're interesting at a time, but it was hard to stop watching, like there was something there. That was that's what I mean. Like you looked good there, something was vibing. We were attracted. We couldn't not watch. It was pretty. Yeah, I remember like really sitting there and I would Voxer you, but you weren't on Voxer at the time. So either of these, like Voxers gone to the ether, but like you look fun, what are you doing? What's this sweater? Yeah, I'll pop in an Instagram more, but yeah, I can get.
Travis Day: 57:14
I'll get Voxer just for you.
Vaness Henry: 57:16
No, don't. Oh my God, it'll be embarrassing. I'll be like, hey, a year old, what are you doing over there? But also the sound quality in. Instagram is just so much better because V thing going on but I hate in instagram that it cuts me off from talking after one minute you get four minutes now or five minutes now I did not know that that is brand new information.
Vaness Henry: 57:37
I can do a lot with four to five minutes. Oh, thank you see. Look, I'll teach you ai. You teach me what's the cool tech? No well, is it a tech upgrade? What are the? What are the tools that we're using? How are they updated? You're not an 80 year old grandpa like you're with it. Whatever, I resent that comment you made before spend the day with me, whatever we're getting old. This dude's homeless is that what you said?
Travis Day: 58:05
hopeless, but I feel, yeah, no, homeless as well, I'm thinking about van life.
Vaness Henry: 58:11
Hey, oh wait. I cannot recommend that enough. Me and my husband still say when we had lived in our motor home, that's my one of my favorite things we've done with our life so far.
Travis Day: 58:21
How long? When was this? How long did you live there?
Vaness Henry: 58:23
I lived in 2019.
Travis Day: 58:25
The whole year.
Vaness Henry: 58:26
No, maybe like a part of the year, but we traveled across Canada Like I I had. I was going. I was going through a thing, you know, my husband had just closed down his business. He was in a really dark place and we rented our house. We owned a house, we rented it to a pair of doctors and bought a motor home and I was like I could take care of us. Just let me figure it out. So I didn't have much expenses because we were in the motorhome and I, just, like, was doing readings. I had this like academy thing that I was launching. It was very similar to what I'm doing now, but not so niche, you know.
Vaness Henry: 59:00
It was like, oh, basics whatever, yeah I kind of started doing that in 2018 and then, yeah, 2019, we were traveling and my kid was kind of the perfect age and then when we came through where I live now, I was like I feel something, here there's this main bridge that connects the east and the west, and you cross this lake and every time I went over that, I was like I like this, I like this, I like this. And then the lockdown happened or the pandemic happened, so we had to go back and we rented a place, we got parked the motorhome because we it wasn't safe to kind of like be around and doing all that and, um, yeah, it was. It was just such special memories my kid, too, is one of his favorite times and I had renovated my motorhome, so it was like cute and white and bright inside, you know. And then when I did sell it, we right, once I moved to bc and we sold it. I made money on it awesome, and it's like a depreciating asset, like everyone wanted to buy like motorhome.
Vaness Henry: 59:54
So, yeah, we just happened to luck out and I would do it again. Like it was amazing. You know, it was really very special to like wake up somewhere, new, incredible views. There was this one time, Trav, where like we were the only people in the on the riding mountain in the park and so we had walkie talkies the three of us and we played this epic like hide and seek kind of thing across the whole place. Like my kid still talks about it.
Travis Day: 1:00:18
You know it was so fun yeah.
Vaness Henry: 1:00:20
Anyway, highly recommend. Yeah, one of my favorite things we've ever done. Okay, last little question here that I wanted to know yeah, what's the podcast had an upgrade. It used to be Neutrino Seas.
Travis Day: 1:00:31
Yes, it did.
Vaness Henry: 1:00:31
Became Projector Eyes.
Travis Day: 1:00:35
Where are we at now?
Vaness Henry: 1:00:38
He clears his throat.
Travis Day: 1:00:39
I was looking at my chart the other day, tell us about your podcast.
Travis Day: 1:00:42
I posted on Instagram like if you understand this joke, then you know human design pretty well. And I was looking at my chart. I'm like why am I always rebranding? Like? Why am I always rebranding like? Why am I always in this phase of like I really feel like I need to rebrand. And if you look at my chart, the 2551 never-ending leaps into the own unknown to like discover new parts of myself. And then the 4426 wants to brand everything. And so I'm like, oh, this, this is like the never-ending thing my chart is gonna have me doing is like I'm gonna change, I'm gonna go through a shocking initiation and find a different part of myself. And then the 4426 is gonna be like yeah, we should rebrand now. And then I have a hanging 35 in my throat that wants to attract attention, and then you know all these different things. So I'm just like my chart is really like this constantly branding.
Vaness Henry: 1:01:27
I love when people go off about their gates and shit.
Vaness Henry: 1:01:29
I fucking live because Cause you know what I do. I look at I'm like your kitchens. Of course, you need to be creative, and you're probably not being creative enough, and when you don't have enough creation, you're going to go reset something, brand it and make it a new. So it's so funny, like, where people go. You know, I'm so conditioned in my area, though, but what I want to say on that is yeah, you probably need more art projects, buddy is yeah, you probably need more art projects, buddy, like you probably need more fun things to do, and then you won't constantly be redoing this thing, but also, it's okay if you do. I had this podcast with um the girls uh, three others called each other, and I had said in order for this to be exciting for me, it has to have an end point, because I can't be doing this forever and I need to be able to make a new cover each season yes a new and like okay.
Vaness Henry: 1:02:10
And then the photo shoots we would do started to become fun. And what's the theme this time? And I had a blast. So building in change can be really fun, but also making sure you have enough creative outlets to make shit you know especially like when you're inspired.
Travis Day: 1:02:27
Yeah, and that's what I'm in a point where I'm super inspired right now. That resonates so deeply because I love making the cover art, I love doing the photo shoots, I love, I love rebranding, like it's so fun for me, you know, and it does keep it fresh and new for my kitchens.
Vaness Henry: 1:02:41
And my third line, and yeah, it's your art form, it's your craft, it's like it's gotta be fun and that's why I was thinking the other day.
Travis Day: 1:02:48
I'm like, wow, I'm so grateful to human design, not just because of the information and what it's done for me, but it's given me such an amazing outlet for creativity. You know, it's like I can. It's so much fun for me to brand and go through all of this stuff, but it's like, wow, people write poems and music and like artwork and like human design has really given a huge population this beautiful outlet to be creative in a spiritual, fun, fun way, and I just love that.
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